Streaming Marvel / 616 Parallel Universe [Netflix, FreeForm Hulu]

I’m sure there are lots of people who would be pissed off if they saw that I believe these shows are set in a slightly different universe than the mainline Marvel stuff, but I think there’s evidence that they aren’t set in the same universe – and that the versions of the characters in the Netflix shows are not the same as in “Spider-Man: No Way Home”, “Hawkeye”, “Echo”, “She-Hulk: Attorney at Law”, “Daredevil: Born Again”, “Punisher: One Last Kill” & “Spider-Man: Brand New Day”.

In the Netflix shows, in particular, which often vaguely reference the events of the films, and are mostly based in New York City – with the famous New York City skyline featured constantly, Stark Tower / Avengers Tower is never seen. I’m sure it was a budgetary thing, but it’s obnoxious. But in the Multiverse Era shows, Avengers Tower can be seen in the skyline. Also, the films of this era (The Infinity Saga) never reference these shows. Never. And official sources like “Marvel Studios The Marvel Cinematic Universe An Official Timeline” don’t include them either, while they do feature the later stories that I mentioned, which implies that they’re different versions of the same characters.

There’s also the fact, that while the Multiverse Era shows reference past events from these programs (which means that they definitely experienced all the things from these shows, but not necessarily in the same universe) there are some discrepancies that support that while they remember events from the Netflix era, they aren’t the same. The most damning of which is that in “Echo”, in which Wilson Fisk, played by Vincent D’Onofrio, reveals a key element of his childhood which involves a hammer. In his tale, that Netflix fans will surely remember, he explains his use of this hammer and reveals that he still has it. But the hammer is different than the one seen in Daredevil. One is a claw hammer and the other is a ballpeen hammer. They don’t look anything alike. Maybe he’s lying and they’re different hammers, but that seems unlikely given the weight of the story being told. Maybe it’s a production mistake? It could be. But for me, this cemented that the Wilson Fisk in “Daredevil” is not the same Wilson Fisk in “Hawkeye”, “Echo” or “Daredevil: Born Again”. And beyond the visual evidence…they just feel like different takes on the same character. They feel like variants. And so in my opinion they are.

This page isn’t finished but I need a break. There are still 15 more seasons of television to be placed here.

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